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"Par rébellion" Imprimer
Auteur : EA (82.64.107.xxx)
Sujet : "Par rébellion"
Date : 2003-05-08 00:06:01

Vous savez trés bien que non. Il faudrait une désobéïssance systématique et de principe pour constituer un schisme. Une simple consécration sans mandatqui encourrait la suspens jusqu'en 17 ne constitue pas un schisme.

Oseriez vous assimiler la rébellion à une désobéïssance ?
Si mon père m'interdit d'aller à la messe, je dois lui désobéïr, cela ne signifie pas que je suis en état de rebellion contre lui.

Athanasios ce débat vous le connaissez. Si vous n'avez pas d'argument neuf merci de me l'épargner.


La discussion

      DICI: L’encyclique sur l’eucharistie, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-05 14:58:11]
          La “Messe à la carte” aurait-elle fait  [...], de Rémi PAU [2003-05-05 15:01:11]
          Re : DICI: L’encyclique sur l’ [...], de Henri [2003-05-05 17:29:39]
              Dici qui rit ,Dici qui pleure..., de von Loustique (62.147.69.xxx) [2003-05-05 21:01:06]
                  Idem. [NT], de Rémi PAU [2003-05-05 21:03:35]
                  La petite bête..., de Henri [2003-05-06 09:31:21]
                      Re : La petite bête..., de Ioannes [2003-05-09 02:39:31]
              Naturellement, il s'en trouvera ..., de PGM (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-05-06 02:36:47]
                  Honneur ou actes du Magistère ?, de Henri [2003-05-06 09:48:21]
                      Sachons faire le départ ..., de PGM (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-05-07 03:36:22]
                          Re : Sachons faire le départ ..., de Henri [2003-05-07 10:13:49]
                              Oh, vous savez ..., de PGM (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-05-08 03:43:30]
          Qui est Dici ?!, de Lux Aeterna [2003-05-05 20:36:47]
              Avis d'un ultramontain., de Rémi PAU [2003-05-05 20:53:38]
              article 1: le pape a raison, de EA (82.64.144.xxx) [2003-05-05 23:43:19]
                  HEUUUMMMMM !, de Anonyme (193.251.90.xxx) [2003-05-06 00:20:46]
                      mauvais chrétien, de EA (82.64.144.xxx) [2003-05-06 00:33:25]
                          je laisse à Dieu seul..., de Pothin [2003-05-06 01:17:08]
                              fatalisme, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 11:01:00]
                          AAARgh!!!, de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 11:00:28]
                              c'est votre lecture, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 11:54:38]
                                  Pas de condamnation ?, de Lux Aeterna [2003-05-06 12:27:08]
                                      Qui est excommunié ?, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 12:56:26]
                                  DICI..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 12:34:00]
                                      comprends pas votre première phrase [NT], de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 12:55:10]
                                          Voyez..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 13:23:29]
                                      Cependant,, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 12:55:30]
                                          Faut voir..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 13:19:41]
                                              Certes., de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 13:26:33]
                                                  Re :Certes. [NT], de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 13:35:59]
                                                  Peut-être..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 14:08:31]
                                                      Donc..., de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 14:55:14]
                                                          Heu..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 15:29:56]
                                                              Un peu..., de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 15:45:42]
                                                                  Hein!?! (vaut aussi pour le post ci-dessous), de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 16:13:56]
                                                                      Il semble, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 16:35:25]
                                                                          C'est bien cela..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 16:46:46]
                                                                              Donc, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 16:54:05]
                                                                                  Oui..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 17:10:52]
                                                                                      Moui..., de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 17:24:59]
                                                                                          Disons..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 19:48:54]
                                                          Au fait..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 15:45:17]
                                                              Si..., de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 15:47:07]
                                                              Oui, absolument :, de Lux Aeterna [2003-05-06 16:02:02]
                                                                  Voyez, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 16:13:13]
                                                                      C'est bien plus..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 16:39:10]
                                                                          Alors pourquoi, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 16:49:04]
                                                                              Je ne dispose pas..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 17:00:56]
                                                                                  Le fait, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 17:17:38]
                                                                                      Oups..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 20:10:50]
                                                                              Schisme et hérésie, de Lux Aeterna [2003-05-06 19:31:50]
                                                                                  Vous demandez, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 19:38:13]
                                                                                      Seulement ?, de Lux Aeterna [2003-05-06 20:02:29]
                                                                                          Possible,, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-06 20:07:18]
                                                                                              mon dernier paragraphe :, de Lux Aeterna [2003-05-06 20:15:16]
                                                                                                  Bof...vous savez,, de Rémi PAU [2003-05-07 00:28:51]
                                                                                      Ce n'est pas..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 20:06:06]
                                                                                  N'importe quoi, de EA (62.147.248.xxx) [2003-05-06 23:18:20]
                                                                                      quod gratis affirmatur..., de Lux Aeterna [2003-05-07 11:02:43]
                                                                                          Schisme à 6, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-07 12:54:25]
                                                                                              6 plus..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-07 13:10:04]
                                                                                                  6+0-2=4, de EA (82.64.107.xxx) [2003-05-07 23:59:41]
                                                                                                      Comptez un de plus ..., de PGM (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-05-08 03:19:48]
                                                                                                          Mgr Lazo n'est pas excommunié, de EA (81.56.124.xxx) [2003-05-08 19:28:39]
                                                                                                              Re : Mgr Lazo n'est pas excommunié, de PGM (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-05-08 23:17:47]
                                                                                                      Re : 6+0-2=4 [NT], de Athanasios D. [2003-05-08 09:23:10]
                                                                                      Excusez-moi..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-07 11:42:01]
                                                                                          ???, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-07 12:48:05]
                                                                                              Désobéissance et schisme..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-07 13:39:55]
                                                                                                  "Par rébellion", de EA (82.64.107.xxx) [2003-05-08 00:06:01]
                                                                                                      ???, de Athanasios D. [2003-05-08 09:22:31]
                                                                  Non, pas canoniste..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 16:22:43]
                                                                      En tous cas, il est ..., de PGM (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-05-07 05:22:45]
                                                                          - pdt -, de Athanasios D. [2003-05-07 12:10:40]
                      Re : Tjs ce pb de signature sorry [NT], de Pothin [2003-05-06 00:35:14]
                  Citations, de Henri [2003-05-06 09:59:21]
                      le pape infaillible en toute circonstance, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 10:39:59]
                      Théologie à deux francs..., de Philippe-M (217.235.160.xxx) [2003-05-06 11:06:46]
                          Réponse à 30 centimes d'euro, de Henri [2003-05-06 11:51:57]
                              extrapolation, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 12:08:57]
                                  Re : extrapolation, de Henri [2003-05-06 13:02:25]
                                      C'est sévère, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 13:23:01]
                                          Re : C'est sévère, de Henri [2003-05-06 13:32:50]
                                              Bien vu, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 13:41:23]
                                                  Re : Bien vu, de Henri [2003-05-06 13:48:48]
                                                  Il devrait pourtant..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 14:46:51]
                                                      inutile, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 14:59:48]
                                                          Ah?, de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 15:15:58]
                                                              Le Royaume de Dieu sur terre, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 17:36:05]
                          S'en tenir..., de Athanasios D. [2003-05-06 12:10:43]
                              Re : S'en tenir..., de Henri [2003-05-06 13:07:17]
                              Le magistère actuel et l'exemplarité, de EA (195.46.202.xxx) [2003-05-06 13:32:16]