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Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ? Imprimer
Auteur : semper-fidelis.org
Sujet : Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?
Date : 2003-02-12 13:26:23

Sur le bienheureux Jean XXIII

Je ne m etendrai pas sur son cas mais je vous soumettrai ceci avec la reflexion suivante : "Comment un pape a t il pu etre beatifie alors que l on en vient a se poser des questions graves au sein meme du Vatican sur les effets du dernier concile (dont ce meme pape a participe)?"

Some religious news outlets are predicting the issuance of an encyclical on
the Holy Eucharist in the next few months. According to Catholic World News, New Vatican officials are concerned about abuses of the Eucharistic
liturgy, about a general desacralization of the Eucharist, and widespread abuses such as routine use of extraordinary Eucharistic ministers, the
disappearance of the penitential rite from the Mass, and modification of the very words of consecration.
Wake up, New Vatican. The cow is out of the barn. You did this. You did this by introducing a counterfeit Novus Ordo service in place of the Holy
Sacrifice of the Mass. You have lost control. No "theological reflection" in the form of an encyclical is going to do anything. Only the complete
termination of the Novus Ordo service will correct the situation. It is
typical of the New Vatican to blame local parishes for not "following
the rules," when it is the New Vatican itself that introduced the
"rule-breaking." Who introduced the changes that led to the desacralization? The New Vatican. Who introduced extraordinary Eucharistic ministers? The New Vatican. Who allowed the penitential rite to be omitted? The New Vatican. Who invented new words of consecration and approved vernacular versions that were invalid? The New Vatican. Who introduced the sacrilege of communion in the hand? Why, the New Vatican. No, this would be much too little and much too late. What we need is a Hercules to clean out the Augean cesspool that the New Vatican has become. Only a return to the Roman Catholic faith and practice will suffice.

Source : Traditio

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La discussion

      FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de brendan [2003-02-10 17:40:26]
          Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de GDB (212.198.0.xxx) [2003-02-10 20:02:19]
              Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de brendan [2003-02-11 12:48:59]
           FSSPX et Pie XII, de Ludo [2003-02-10 23:26:15]
              Re : FSSPX et Pie XII, de brendan [2003-02-11 13:16:21]
                  Re : FSSPX et Pie XII, de Orgue (217.128.39.xxx) [2003-02-11 17:37:38]
                  Re : Non infaillible, de Ludo [2003-02-11 22:40:36]
                      Re : Non infaillible, de brendan [2003-02-12 16:15:28]
                          Merci de vouvoyer votre interlocuteur! [NT], de Rémi PAU [2003-02-12 16:40:32]
                          Si ça peut vous aider ...., de PGM (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-02-13 06:58:40]
          Eglise conciliaire ?, de Ludo [2003-02-10 23:44:00]
          Christ-roi, de Ludo [2003-02-11 00:01:54]
              Re : Christ-roi, de brendan [2003-02-11 12:55:33]
                  Sainte Jeanne d'Arc, svp..., de Rémi PAU [2003-02-11 13:05:59]
                  Re : Christ-roi, de Ludo [2003-02-11 22:48:55]
                      Re : Christ-roi, de brendan [2003-02-12 16:23:01]
          Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de semper-fidelis.org [2003-02-11 09:43:56]
              Le problème avec "Semper-Fidelis", de lg [2003-02-11 12:07:15]
                  Re : Le problème avec "Semper-Fidelis& [...], de semper-fidelis.org [2003-02-11 14:22:34]
                      Il y a un problème dans ce que vous dites., de lg [2003-02-11 22:22:07]
                          Re : Il y a un problème dans ce que vous di [...], de semper-fidelis.org [2003-02-12 08:54:19]
                              L'erreur de SEMPER-FIDELIS, de lg [2003-02-12 12:49:10]
                                  Au fait, Le Gars du BTAG,, de Tintin (212.71.20.xxx) [2003-02-12 13:07:51]
                                      PS :, de Tintin (212.71.20.xxx) [2003-02-12 13:10:33]
                                      Re : Au fait, Le Gars du BTAG,, de lg [2003-02-12 13:44:57]
                                          Mais non !, de Tintin (212.71.20.xxx) [2003-02-12 13:54:32]
                                  Re : L'erreur de SEMPER-FIDELIS, de semper-fidelis.org [2003-02-12 13:20:19]
                                      Re : L'erreur de SEMPER-FIDELIS, de lg [2003-02-12 13:41:34]
                  Jésus Marie (Joseph), de XA [2003-02-12 13:38:04]
                      Vous croyez?, de Rémi PAU [2003-02-12 13:40:59]
                          Comment ???, de XA [2003-02-12 13:46:50]
                              M'enfin!!!, de Rémi PAU [2003-02-12 13:54:39]
                                  Seule maman..., de lg [2003-02-12 14:03:02]
                                      Moui..., de Rémi PAU [2003-02-12 14:05:00]
                                          Re : Moui..., de lg [2003-02-12 14:07:47]
                                              Et qu'on me pardonne, de Rémi PAU [2003-02-12 14:13:53]
                                                  Re : Et qu'on me pardonne, de lg [2003-02-12 19:46:30]
                                                  moi aussi ça me chiffonne ... [NT], de MGP (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-02-13 07:27:15]
                                                      C'est malin, vous deux! [NT], de Rémi PAU [2003-02-13 12:33:36]
              Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de brendan [2003-02-11 13:05:25]
                  Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de semper-fidelis.org [2003-02-11 14:31:36]
                  Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de dominique [2003-02-12 12:29:21]
                      Oui, ça coince!, de Rémi PAU [2003-02-12 12:54:33]
                      Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de semper-fidelis.org [2003-02-12 13:26:23]
                      Re : FSSPX,semper-fidelis kesako ?, de PGM (216.162.67.xxx) [2003-02-13 07:45:37]