I went there and gave a full talk on the crucifixion to Sr. Lucia and the group there. In fact, Sr. Lucia had open arms out to me when I went there. I gave the talk — it was really beautiful because we had a nice conversation. In fact her doctor, a young woman, whom I had met — I inquired, I said that I would love to take some pictures with Sr. Lucia, but I understand that it is not allowed. So she asked the mother superior. The mother superior relayed my request to Sr. Lucia. Sr. Lucia came out and said, "I don’t mind at all." She let us take a bunch of pictures, and we talked about different things. Then I went ahead, at that particular time, and I said, "I don’t know if it’s off-limits here, but I’ve been hearing a lot of different rumors and a lot of different ideas — I’d like to know about this, Sister. I’d like to ask you a question. Was the consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary done? I heard it wasn’t done — that it wasn’t done right and so forth. That she [Sr. Lucia] had indicated that it was not done." Sr. Lucia looked both me and my wife right in the eye, and she said, "It was done! The Holy Father willed it. It was done, and you can tell your friends that it was done." [. . .] Sister said specifically, right to me and my wife, "It was done!" And that’s the reason why I have related it [. . .]. Especially after we were conversing. I could not get over this woman, who was 95 at the time — this was in April [2002 — editor] — she is 96 now — smart as a whip! Extremely smart. She made rosaries — she even gave us rosaries she had made. And also, she has a book called Calls — it is fantastic — you have to read the book [. . .].